Thursday Thoughts - Braindroppings

Today, we want to jump all over the landscape and ask a ton of questions, point out a ton of interesting thoughts, and...well, if George Carlin were still around, he'd call these "Braindroppings"! So, here goes!

What makes a team a dynasty? Three titles in a row, like Hawthorn just achieved in the AFL? Does five in fifteen years count, like the NBA's San Antonio Spurs? What about the Patriots, who've won four and been to seven Super Bowls in the Belechick/Brady era (about fourteen years)? Certainly the 1950s-60s Boston Celtics count - they're the very definition of a dynasty! Eight in a row, eleven in thirteen years...but which of those is more important? Is winning over a long period of time, even if you missed a couple in between, "better" than the string over three or four years? What do you think?

Concussion protocols...without question, better than it's been in previous years, when you could convince your coach you were good to go play even when the other team seems to have twice as many players as they legally should have. But please, footy, football, every other kind of real contact sport - don't assume the problem's fixed! The iffy nature of concussions to begin with makes dealing with them nebulous in the best of times, and as we learn more and more about how much time it actually takes to recover from the hit, we have to change how we deal with it. Opinion?

Specials... which is what many coaches call "trick plays". Washington pulled a good one last night, a double pass which scored their first touchdown and led to an upset of USC in LA. SC State had a great one that I first saw the Rams pull on Seattle last year, where you have a punt returner fake like he's getting the punt, when in reality it's the guy on the opposite sideline who's catching the ball and (in last night's game) scoring a touchdown on the runback! (Bethune-Cookman won anyway, however, in a game which may have decided the MEAC.) So, the question that bugs some people is this - are "specials" basically cheating? If you can't win playing "correctly" (or "like men", if you want to really get machismo on this), you have to "resort to trick plays" to try to "cheat" your way to victory! My response - first of all, the plays are legal, so it's not cheating. Second of all, it's the brain versus brawn argument, and football has room for both. If you're okay with a team using the forward pass to win, which many in the early days of the AAFC and NFL weren't for the same reason (c'mon! Be a man and run at me!), you really can't complain about the double pass, or any other "trickeration", as our idol Chris Petersen would say. Petersen, of course, was the one who called the double pass that beat USC last night, and famously brought the house down in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl with a host of trick plays at the end of the game to pull out the Boise State victory over vaunted Oklahoma. What most people forget is that, until a great OU drive and a brainfade interception, Boise had OU soundly beaten (28-10, late in the third) with old-fashioned, hard-nosed, "my linemen are better than yours" football. You've gotta have the guys who can pull it off, too. Your thoughts?

Speaking of Boise v Oklahoma, the perpetual argument over whether a school from outside the Power Five conferences should ever play for a national championship rages, and will continue to until one gets in and then wins the tournament. The CFP folks threw the Group of Five conferences a nice bone by guaranteeing their best team a spot in the high-paying bowl games in the New Year's Six, which is more than they've had. But what if (to choose a team besides Boise, our personal favorite!) Temple or Toledo, both of whom look spectacular this year, goes undefeated in 2015, looks phenomenal in doing so, and two of the power conferences fail to produce any team the committee feels is worthy of a playoff bid? Who's to say that an undefeated Temple isn't a better choice than, say, a three-loss Florida State? What would be wrong with that? Think back to that 2007 Fiesta Bowl, which some say was the best game of all time (as much as I love Boise St, I'd go with USC/Texas in the BCS title game the year Vince Young won it for the Longhorns). Utah had been the first "mid-major" to qualify for a big bowl, but they played a five-loss Pitt team from a pathetic Big East, won, and proved nothing. Boise was the first mid-major to play in the spotlight against a top ten team - and not just any, but 7-time national champion Oklahoma, Big 12 champs, one loss, Adrian Peterson at RB. Somehow the screwed up rankings had BSU #7 and OU #9, but the Sooners were absurd betting favorites - David and Goliath was referenced multiple times in the intro. BSU dominated the game, and if it weren't for a Bronco punt coverage mistake late in the 3rd, Oklahoma was ready to give up. In fact, over the span of games that mid-major teams played in BCS bowl games, their record was 5-2. (And one of those losses was to another mid-major, when they pitted TCU and BSU against each other the year they both qualified. The other was Hawaii's debacle loss to Georgia, proving there's an exception to every rule.) Why can't a Boise St, a Houston, a Memphis, a Toledo, a Temple, a Navy, a Northern Illinois play for the title?

Bodybag games...New Mexico State is getting about a million dollars towards balancing its athletic budget ($4.4 M over, last year) to go to the University of Mississippi and be a forty-three point underdog to a top-notch SEC team. Basically, they're being paid to be the Washington Generals. Remember the Generals? The Globetrotters' perpetual opponents? Name anything about them besides that. Thought so... Ole Miss wants a week off from the gauntlet of the SEC, wants to fill their stadium, give their fans a "guaranteed win" (as LSU will tell you about Jacksonville St, "no such thing"!), and is giving about a one-seventh share of the profits to the opponent for the privilege of being beaten badly. Some teams are notorious for needing these games to stay afloat - Following Football's favorite team, the MEAC's punching bag Savannah State, played Oklahoma St and Florida St in consecutive weeks two years ago, lost the first one 88-0, and would've lost the second to the national champs by worse if they hadn't gone to a running clock in the second half to finish early and avoid a storm coming in. Up here in the Northwest, I always pity the Idaho Vandals, who moved to the big-time because Boise St did, but in little Moscow, Idaho, they don't have the fan base or the resources to afford the lifestyle of an FBS football program. So instead of being the top-notch FCS program they were for decades, rivals with the Montanas of the realm, they're stuck as a bottom-feeder in the lowly Sun Belt conference, taking two payday games a year (this year at USC and Auburn) to financially survive another one-win season. Where's the shame in moving to FCS before your entire program disbands (see UAB)? Why don't schools like NMSU, Idaho, and several others improve both their bottom line AND their competitive results and return to the FCS where their school setting suggests they should be anyway? Your thoughts?

THURSDAY THOUGHTS - Vegas' thoughts on the NFL and NCAA

Welcome to Thursday Thoughts, and today's thoughts are regarding the outcomes of the American brand of football, currently in pre-production but opening at a stadium near you in the next few weeks!

Ya wanna start with the pros first? Okee-doky! 

Here are the combined rankings from six leading prognosticators, including scouting combines, media sources, and casino oddsmakers, on a 4-3-2-1 vote from top to bottom:

A perfect score would be 24 (six groups score a team as most likely to win the division). FOUR teams are considered locks to win their NFL divisions...

AFC East: New England

AFC South: Indianapolis

NFC North: Green Bay

NFC West: Seattle

Not coincidentally, those are the four teams considered most likely to win the Super Bowl this year! Green Bay was chosen as Super Bowl 50 champion in four of the six surveys; Indy and Seattle won one each.

The other division winners are projected as follows: 

AFC West: Denver (5 of 6 chose the Broncos)

 AFC North: Baltimore (4 of 6 chose the Ravens)

NFC East: Dallas (3 out of 6 chose the Cowboys, with one tie)

NFC South: Carolina (3 out of six chose the Panthers, with one tie).

Overall, adding up the general perceptions of these six organizations, we get something like this:

AFC playoff teams                                                     NFC playoff teams

1. Indianapolis (#3 overall)                                          1. Green Bay (#1 overall)

2. New England (#4 overall)                                        2. Seattle (#2 overall)

[So, the consensus is a new match-up in the Super Bowl this year!]

3. Denver (#5 overall)                                                  3. Dallas (#6 overall)

4. Baltimore (#8 overall)                                              4. Carolina (#14 overall)

5. Pittsburgh (#9 overall)                                             5. Philadelphia (#7 overall)

6. Cincinnati (#11 overall)                                            6. Arizona (#10 overall)

[Not many new teams...and close races in the AFC North and NFC East again!...]

Below those teams...

7. Miami (#12 overall)                                                  7. New Orleans (#17 overall)

[AND the NFC South again, though they maybe not so lousy...and Miami missed by ONE vote!]

8. Kansas City (#13 overall)                                         8. Minnesota (#18 overall)

9. Buffalo (#15 overall)                                                9. New Jersey Giants (#19 overall)

10. San Diego (#16 overall)                                         10. Detroit (#21 overall)

11. Houston (#20 overall)                                            11. Atlanta (#22 overall)

12. New Jersey Jets (#25 overall)                                12. St. Louis (#23 overall)

13. Jacksonville (#28 overall)                                      13. San Francisco (#24 overall)

14. Cleveland (#30 overall)                                          14. Chicago (#26 overall)

15. Oakland (#31 overall)                                             15. Washington (#27 overall)

16. Tennessee (#32 overall)                                         16. Tampa Bay (#29 overall)

Our meta-analysis is that these folks aren't taking the last-becomes-first-overnight nature of the NFL into account enough...but then, how do you predict unpredictability, anyway?

As for the NCAA crown, well, there's one definitive front-runner there, too...

Here are the odds from the top tier of one of the major worldwide gambling sites as of this week:

Winner of the 2016 NCAA (Division 1A) FBS Championship Game

Ohio State (5 to 1 odds)

Alabama (8.5 to 1)

TCU (9 to 1)
Auburn, USC (both 15 to 1)
Oregon (17 to 1)
Baylor and Florida St (19 to 1)
LSU and Michigan State (21 to 1)
Clemson and Oklahoma (26 to 1)
Notre Dame (29 to 1)
UCLA, Georgia, and Ole Miss (all 34 to 1)
Mississippi State and Stanford (both 41 to 1)

From there, it descends into about ten teams at each level, as you get into the "just how unrealistic IS this?" game. These numbers seem very typical of the thinking most pundits have at the moment. [My personal thought reading the rest of the list is that if you were going to put a Group of Five team in that CFP this year, it would have to be Boise State, as they're the only one with a track record long enough that an undefeated season might just get them in. It's strange, then, in a season where they're universal favorites to win the Mountain West (only Ohio State is as big a conference fave), they're sitting BEHIND five Group of Five teams, TWO of which are in the Mountain West - the same teams they're predicted to whup this year. Weird. It's not like it's going to ever happen, but it might be worth plunking a fiver down on the Broncos at 251-1 to win the national championship!] 

Ohio State is certainly everyone's favorite at the moment, deservedly so. As mentioned, the Buckeyes and Broncos are the only teams in the realm of get-back-less-than-what-you-bet favorites to win their conferences, both around the "bet three or four to win one" dollar mark. But that's a hard target to wear on your back all season long - you'll have to be able to win when you're not playing well. because everyone will come at you with their best shot this year! 

Here's our predictions for the rest of the FBS conferences!

Having just posted our predictions for the Power Five conferences (the ACC, Big Ten, Big Twelve, Pac-12, and SEC), it's time to take a look at the other five conferences in the Bowl Subdivision - the American, Conference USA, the MAC, the Mountain West, and the Sun Belt Conference. Here we go!

The American Athletic Conference (formerly the Big East):
*Six teams will vie for the title, so the champ may have two or even three conf losses!
*In the West, Memphis looks the class, although Houston will host them on Nov 14 and could steal the division with a win there.
*Navy's joined a conference for the first time in their 135 years of football! Looking at 3rd...
*Tulane should beat Tulsa at home and lock up 4th, while SMU will be better than last year, even if it doesn't get them out of the basement.
*In the East, it's easier to start at the bottom: UConn 6th, and South Florida 5th.
*All four of the others should thrash each other into a 5-3 logjam! We'll wager on East Carolina 1st, Central Florida 2nd, and Cincinnati 3rd with Temple in 4th. But who knows?
*Given that, we'll take Memphis to win the title game.

Conference USA:
*The winner of the Marshall at Western Kentucky game wins the division and the title.
*As of this moment? We'll lean on the revenge factor and pick the Thundering Herd.
*Middle Tennessee heads a distant pack behind them in the East.
*Pencil in Old Dominion, FIU, FAU, and newcomer UNC-Charlotte in the 4/5/6/7 spots.
*Nobody in the West can punch with WKU or Marshall, but Louisiana Tech should get the chance.
*If not, it'll be Rice - they've developed a good system there.
*UTEP should be able to rise to third, and then it depends on some ball bounces: 
*We're thinking Southern Miss rises to 4th, North Texas 5th, and UTSA falls back to sixth.

Mid-American Conference (the MAC):
*They've marketed a marginal conference well - the Tuesday and Wednesday night games on ESPN, the "#MACtion" tweets, and all the exciting play from clever coaches. 
*The power division here is the West, where by throwing their names in a hat I came up with:
*Northern Illinois winning the division (most experience winning).
*Toledo 2nd, Western Michigan fighting a tough schedule for third, and Ball St in 4th.
*Central Michigan is an easy 5th place pick, because the top 4 are significantly better, and...
*Eastern Michigan is conceivably the worst team in football, at least this year in the FBS.
*In the East, Bowling Green is the class of the division (though they'll lose the title game).
*Only Terry Bowden's Akron has a shot to dethrone them, with Frank Solich's Ohio team in third. 
*Four bad teams round out the MAC-East: U-Mass (bad), Buffalo (bad), Kent St (really bad), and Miami of Ohio (so bad Miami-FL makes them distinguish that they are not the same school). 

Mountain West conference:
* This year, it should be Boise State and the eleven dwarves, but that remains to be proven. 
*Boise's rating numbers are so far above everyone else's that they should be 8-0 in conference, with only a tough out-of-conf schedule to manage. If they goes 3-1 there, they should be playing in a major bowl again. 
*Utah St figures to give them the best battle, although they've hit some rocky stretches here.
*CSU, Air Force, Wyoming, and New Mexico round out the Mountain division, in that order.
*In the West, six mediocre teams fight for the division title, with San Diego St looking like the best candidate for the job,
*Nevada's coming up on the rail for 2nd, and Fresno St's struggling this off-season. 
*San Jose may still be 4th, but not for lack of trying. Meanwhile, Hawaii will put some wins on the home field, and UNLV won't.

Sun Belt Conference:
*I know - this should've been in yellow...but Appalachian St and Georgia Southern are the 1-2 teams here...Only the two of them, plus maybe 3rd place Arkansas St and maybe 4th place Louisiana Lafayette would have a chance to win even one game in any other conference. Even the MAC or Conf-USA!
*Texas State is the best of the rest, and should be able to pull off a .500 or better record in league.
*After that, it's turtles all the way down. 
*Depending on how South Alabama takes to its 10-15 new players who were with UAB last year before their one year hiatus, they could be as high as sixth (maybe fifth?). Or UL-Monroe will slide from 7th up to 6th...
*Below that are four of the five Bottom Five teams to start the season (most likely): Troy in 8th; New Mexica St (9th), Idaho (10th), and Georgia State (11th).

So, to recap - the Bottom Five would be Troy,  NMSU, the Vandals, Georgia State, and Eastern Michigan, along with their intern, newbie Charlotte from the C-USA. (If we're counting Army as a non-Power conference team, then the Cadets from West Point will be in that Bottom mix as well.) Boise State should repeat as the Power of Five rep in the New Year's Six bowl games, and the conference champs will include Appalachian State, Northern Illinois, Marshall, and Memphis.

Is it too early to talk Top 30 in college football?

Yes. Yes it is.

However, Sports Illustrated doesn't think so, and they've put out their "post-spring camp Top 25" plus five more, and it's an interesting list to peruse...

1. Ohio State                                       11. Stanford                                           21. Georgia Tech
2. Baylor                                              12. Ole Miss                                          22. Oklahoma
3. Auburn                                            13. Arizona                                            23. BYU
4. Alabama                                          14. USC                                                  24. LSU
5. Michigan St                                    15. Boise State                                      25. Oklahoma St
6. TCU                                                  16. Clemson                                          26. Arkansas
7. Notre Dame                                    17. Missouri                                          27. Utah
8. UCLA                                               18. Georgia                                           28. Mississippi St
9. Florida St                                        19. Arizona St                                       29. Texas
10. Oregon                                           20. Wisconsin                                      30. Michigan

 I find this list absolutely fascinating to contemplate, which is why I post it. At Following Football, we do NOT rank football teams until somewhen in mid-October at the earliest. What we do do is group teams into what we call "tiers"; eventually there'll be about twenty tiers, A through T or so, even when they're ranked (that's also how we project game outcomes) but at the very beginning of the season? We'll divide them up into two, three, four tiers...then six or seven...then maybe eight or ten..until we have enough information to rank them all, #1-127. (UAB football, rest in peace.)

But about THIS list? Look at these crunchy tidbits!
> Auburn 3 and Alabama 4? Delicious!
> OSU deserves #1, but MSU isn't very far behind at #5...
> Baylor at 2 and TCU way back at 6? But TCU's the one bringing their QB back!
> How about this one? Everett Golson goes to perennial playoff contender Florida St, #9... but the team he left is #7!
> Look at the Pac-12! UCLA #8, Oregon #10, Stanford #11, Arizona #13, USC #14, and Arizona State at #19! (Even Utah sneaking in at 27!) THAT will be a packed conference!
> The "Group of Five" better figure out a way to defeat Boise State! They start the season ranked this year...even a loss or two may not knock them out of the top non-Power spot! (Only BYU sits on the list, at #23, to challenge.)
> Oklahoma 22 and Okee State 25? Fun!
> Arkansas 26 and Texas 29? (Or OU/UT? Or...)
> And look who they've got sneaking in at #30! High hopes, indeed, Mr. Harbaugh!

Good review of where the colleges are...

As is often the case, ESPN is on top of the college spring practice scene, and more importantly, where teams are leaning as we look ahead to the fall. This piece by their Pac-12 man (and college go-to-guy!) Ted Miller does a great job surveying the landscape and looking at the BIG PICTURE in FBS football, as of March 2015!

Also, Heather Dinich writes a really great piece about where the current thinking is regarding out-of-conference scheduling - why the Big 12 schools are taking a risk (SMU, Lamar, and Rice? Really, Baylor?), while the Big Ten has the right idea (in my mind) with their 1910 plan - 1 major non-conference game, 9 conference games, 1 championship game, 0 FCS patsies scheduled. 

Perfect. 

No one's demanding you play a top ten school every week, big boys. Remember, there is no preseason in college football. Your first warm-up game counts! When Boise played "at" Ole Miss in August last year and lost, that game counted against them - it took a semi-perfect run of the table in October and November to get them back into New Year's Six contention. You lose that first game, you're in trouble - so if your first game is against the Little Sisters Of The Poor, Ohio State, I'll grant you that. 

Just not the other two non-cons, okay? Play real teams.

Finally, there's a nice piece (also by Heather Dinich) which discusses the College Football Playoff system's successes and failures last year with the movers and shakers, decides that the former far outweighs the latter (and that they were burned by the constant 'tinkering' of the BCS formats), and that there won't be any changes in the near future to the CFP process. Four teams. Committee, some advance polls (maybe slight adjustments as to the when and how often), and no changes. The key word in the article is patience.

Some great mid-major (and above) thoughts from "Fan-Sided"

Here are a couple of posts from the college football section of SI's FanSided, including one listing five schools who are not only ready to move up but additionally NEED to move up to a Power Five conference ASAP...a short clip about the contract extension for Boise State's head coach, but the real news is that little ol' Boise is giving its DC and OC three-year, million dollar contracts, something unheard of just a few years ago...and an interesting analysis of five schools who turn the two and three star recruits into five star players because of their coaching, style, consistency, and methods.

Comparing the final rankings...

It's always interesting to compare opinions, especially when the entire point of sports is to enjoy the competition between your guys and their guys and in doing so, comparing the two teams - and in the context of an entire season, comparing your guys to a slough of "their guys" and deciding how far up the ladder your guys are. (Ladies: "guys" is meant as a unisex term here.)

So, with that in mind, here's a list based on the Following Football #1-128 tiered ranking system that includes the final poll from the AP writers, the Sagaring rating system (if you need a primer in the Sagarin system, let me know!), the Massey Index (which compares and compiles 91 different computer and human ranking systems and then provides us with (for lack of a better term) a 'consensus' result), and the Superlist, which combines the six known meta-lists and gives us a different kind of consensus!

(The Sagarin rating and rank are in red simply to make the two connect visually better. The actual Sagarin rankings include the FCS teams: Eastern Michigan is really #208 in the country, out of 252! Also, the letters on the Massey rankings are tiers, just like FF uses: while these come from our hand, they're denoting the natural breaks in the totals - where there's a big gap between schools and where the groupings are.)

				Final		Final	Final	Final
Final			Final	Sagarin		Massey	Superlist	AP
Ranking	Team	Conf	Record	rating		Ranking	Ranking	rank
A1	Ohio St	b10	14-1	100.81	1	A1	1	1
A2	Oregon	pac	13-2	95.71	4	A2	2	2
A3	Alabama	sec	12-2	96.83	3	A3	3	4
A4	Florida St	acc	13-1	84.86	16	B7	6	5T
A5	TCU	b12	12-1	99.58	2	A4	4	3
B06	Michigan St	b10	11-2	93.36	6	B+5	5	5T
B07	Baylor	b12	11-2	90.57	7	B8	8	7
B08	Georgia Tech	acc	11-3	87.42	12	C09	11	8
B09	Mississippi St	sec	10-3	89.19	9	C12	14	11
B10	Georgia	sec	10-3	95.13	5	B6	7	9
B11	UCLA	pac	10-3	84.71	17	C11	9	10
C12	Ole Miss	sec	9-4	89.82	8	C10	10	17
C13	Missouri	sec	11-3	85.06	15	D13	13	14
C14	Kansas St	b12	9-4	84.48	19	E20	24	18
C15	Clemson	acc	10-3	87.03	13	D15	12	15
C16	Wisconsin	b10	11-3	83.48	21	D14	15	13
C17	Auburn	sec	8-5	88.40	11	E16	17	22
D18	Boise St	mw	12-2	77.43	36	E17	19	16
D19	Arizona St	pac	10-3	81.96	25	E19	16	12
D20	USC	pac	9-4	84.19	20	E18	18	20
D21	Arizona	pac	10-4	77.76	33	E22	20	19
D22	LSU	sec	8-5	85.53	14	F25	26
D23	Utah	pac	9-4	82.75	23	F26	23	21
E24	Texas A&M	sec	8-5	82.82	22	G29	27
E25	Stanford	pac	8-5	84.61	18	F24	22
E26	Arkansas	sec	7-6	88.48	10	F23	21
E27	Nebraska	b10	9-4	81.09	29	G28	30
E28	Oklahoma	b12	8-5	81.47	27	G30	31
E29	Louisville	acc	9-4	80.60	30	G27	28	24
E30	Marshall	cusa	13-1	82.36	24	E21	25	23
E31	Notre Dame	ind	8-5	79.83	31	H+32	32
E32	Minnesota	b10	8-5	76.17	37	H34	35
E33	Duke	acc	9-4	74.99	41	I40	40
F34	Florida	sec	7-5	81.48	26	H+31	29
F35	South Carolina	sec	7-6	77.56	35	I39	38
F36	Colorado St	mw	10-3	69.51	60	I38	37
F37	Memphis	aac	10-3	76.11	38	H33	34	25
G38	West Virginia	b12	7-6	78.53	32	I+36	36
G39	Washington	pac	8-6	74.34	43	J+43	39
G40	Cincinnati	aac	8-4	71.48	55	J46	53
G41	Miami-FL	acc	6-7	75.08	40	K49	51
G42	Utah St	mw	10-4	72.70	49	J+41	45
H43	North Carolina St	acc	8-5	73.21	45	J+42	42
H44	Maryland	b10	7-6	72.39	52	K54	48
H45	Tennessee	sec	7-6	81.39	28	H35	33
H46	Northern Illinois	mac	11-3	68.08	65	K53	54
H47	Rutgers	b10	8-5	70.53	59	J47	41
H48	Penn St	b10	7-6	73.55	44	K55	49
H49	Air Force	mw	10-3	67.79	69	J45	47
I50	Texas	b12	6-7	72.42	51	K51	52
I51	Oklahoma St	b12	7-6	72.46	50	K50	44
I52	Iowa	b10	7-6	73.13	46	L+57	56
I53	Boston College	acc	7-6	74.36	42	J48	50
I54	Kentucky	sec	5-7	73.04	47	M70	64
J55	Central Florida	aac	9-4	71.18	56	K56	61
J56	East Carolina	aac	8-5	69.44	62	L62	69
J57	BYU	ind	8-5	71.61	53	K52	55
J58	Louisiana Tech	cusa	9-5	77.57	34	I37	46
J59	Virginia Tech	acc	7-6	75.30	39	J44	43
J60	Navy	ind	8-5	68.05	66	L+58	57
K61	North Carolina	acc	6-7	67.60	70	M69	63
K62	Georgia Southern	sun	9-3	69.47	61	L59	62
K63	UL-Lafayette	sun	9-4	66.68	71	M66	67
K64	Western Kentucky	cusa	8-5	66.24	73	L64	70
Final			Final	Sagarin		Massey	Superlist
Ranking	Team	Conf	Record	rating		Ranking	Ranking
K65	California	pac	5-7	71.55	54	M65	58
K66	Oregon St	pac	5-7	66.05	75	N76	71
K67	Michigan	b10	5-7	70.70	58	L63	59
L68	Western Michigan	mac	8-5	64.84	80	N75	78
L69	Houston	aac	8-5	67.89	68	M-71	75
L70	Pitt	acc	6-7	70.86	57	M68	72
L71	Illinois	b10	6-7	65.10	77	N+73	73
L72	Nevada	mw	7-6	64.28	81	N+74	74
L73	Toledo	mac	9-4	68.01	67	L61	65
M74	Texas Tech	b12	4-8	66.48	72	O+78	77
M75	Virginia	acc	5-7	72.79	48	L60	60
M76	Rice	cusa	8-5	68.39	64	M67	66
M77	San Diego St	mw	7-6	64.12	82	N-77	79
M78	Northwestern	b10	5-7	69.29	63	M-72	68
N79	Temple	aac	6-6	65.00	79	O81	83
N80	Bowling Green	mac	8-6	57.13	98	P89	90
N81	Arkansas St	sun	7-6	65.04	78	P+83	86
N82	Central Michigan	mac	7-6	62.07	87	P86	88
O83	Fresno St	mw	6-8	59.13	92	P88	85
O84	UTEP	cusa	7-6	61.44	89	O82	80
O85	UAB	cusa	6-6	65.30	76	O+79	82
O86	Washington St	pac	3-9	66.18	74	O80	76
O87	Texas St	sun	7-5	58.75	93	P90	92
O88	Appalachian St	sun	7-5	61.82	88	P87	95
O89	Kansas	b12	3-9	58.31	94	Q95	91
O90	Syracuse	acc	3-9	62.97	84	P91	87
O91	South Alabama	sun	6-7	55.89	104	Q96	98
P92	Purdue	b10	4-8	62.34	86	Q94	94
P93	Ohio	mac	6-6	54.80	107	R099	104
P94	Middle Tennessee	cusa	6-6	60.79	91	P+84	84
P95	Colorado	pac	2-10	62.93	85	Q+93	93
P96	Iowa St	b12	2-10	61.38	90	R+97	96
Q097	UL-Monroe	sun	4-8	55.96	103	S107	108
Q098	Ball St	mac	5-7	57.68	96	R102	105
Q099	Wyoming	mw	4-8	56.46	102	R098	97
Q100	Buffalo	mac	5-6	53.54	110	S108	114
Q101	Wake Forest	acc	3-9	56.50	101	S+103	102
Q102	Indiana	b10	3-9	64.04	83	P+85	81
R103	Hawai'i	mw	4-9	56.78	100	S106	101
R104	Old Dominion	cusa	6-6	58.08	95	Q+92	89
R105	South Florida	aac	4-8	52.68	114	S109	110
R106	New Mexico	mw	4-8	55.18	105	R101	99
R107	Vanderbilt	sec	3-9	57.14	97	R100	100
R108	FIU	cusa	4-8	56.99	99	S104	106
S109	Florida Atlantic	cusa	3-9	53.75	109	T+112	111
S110	Akron	mac	5-7	54.86	106	S110	112
S111	Tulane	aac	3-9	53.29	112	T+111	107
S112	Army	ind	4-8	51.59	117	T116	116
S113	North Texas	cusa	4-8	52.95	113	T115	113
S114	Southern Miss	cusa	3-9	53.54	111	T113	115
T115	San Jose St	mw	3-9	52.04	115	T114	109
T116	UT-San Antonio	sun	4-7	54.31	108	S105	103
T117	Miami-OH	mac	2-10	50.26	118	U120	121
T118	Troy	sun	3-9	46.10	123	U122	122
T119	Tulsa	aac	2-10	48.43	119	U118	118
T120	UNLV	mw	2-11	46.94	121	U121	119
U121	Kent St	mac	2-9	47.47	120	U119	120
U122	U Massachusetts	mac	3-9	51.69	116	U117	117
U123	U Conn	aac	2-10	44.70	125	V+123	123
U124	Idaho	sun	1-10	46.66	122	V125	127
U125	Eastern Michigan	mac	2-10	38.77	128	V126	126
U126	SMU	aac	1-11	39.15	127	V124	124
V127	New Mexico St	sun	2-10	45.20	124	V127	125
V128	Georgia St	sun	1-11	41.00	126	V-128	128

A few interesting things to notice:  Yes, Ohio State gets #1 in all systems, but not really unanimously. TCU actually had the highest Sagarin rating by two full points before the Buckeye beatdown on Oregon's finest...Florida State's position is as uncertain as ever: we still have them fourth, since we had them top four and in the playoff before it started; but some organizations drop them out of the top four, and in fact their rankings range from 4 down to 16!...Michigan State's in the top six in every system. Big month for the B1G!...Lotta love for Marshall in the final analysis - top 25 in all set-ups except ours...Also hard to believe the last place team in a division could be in the top 25, but Arkansas' annihilation of Texas and the last few games of their season is pushing their stock up into the high twenties!...Florida, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, and Louisiana Tech are all getting much higher rankings from all of the other systems than we gave them: I guess we're going to have to take another look, aren't we?...Certain combinations you tend to look for automatically, right? Nebraska finished ahead of Oklahoma across the board; Michigan is generally ahead of their directional schools, especially up-and-coming Western Michigan...Speaking of Broncos, how about Boise State, carrying the banner for the small programs once again - the first non-power conference team to win three BCS/New Year's Six games (only one to PLAY in that many, too!)...If this really was Alabama-Birmingham's last year of football, they fared commendably: 6-6, with every ranking between 76 and 85....The dis-honor of the lowest Power Conference team goes to Wake Forest, although within the FF rankings, Vanderbilt fell below the Demon Deacons....And, as always, the Bottom Twelve or so are set in concrete, with virtually identical membership from all four rating systems (Army gets its nose in twelfth from the bottom on the Sagarin scale) - Miami - OH, Troy, Tulsa, UNLV, Kent St, UMass, UConn, Idaho, Eastern Michigane, SMU, New Mexico St, and last place holder, Georgia St. A lack of sincerity in our congratulations to ALL of you!