Showing posts with label Wake Forest. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wake Forest. Show all posts

Thursday, July 2, 2015

Speaking of college football, how about a few early predictions?

While here at Following Football:ACNC we don't rank our teams early so as not to bias ourselves against what we see, there's nothing to stop us from guessing how things are going to turn out! So, holding back the right to adjust these predictions as circumstances warrant until the season actually starts in September, here are some thoughts as they pertain to the actual conference races this fall...

Atlantic Coast Conference:
- The winner of the Florida St @ Clemson game wins the ACC title. (We bet Clemson.)
- Louisville 3rd and NC St 4th in the Atlantic; everyone else is putrid.
- Flip a coin between Miami, Georgia Tech, and Va-Tech for the Coastal crown...
-...we're taking Miami in an upset right now.
- Duke will still be good; just not AS good. 4th place. 
- Since UNC goes TO Pitt, we'll take Pitt for 5th and the Tar Heels 6th. 
- It'll be Al Golden's last year at Virginia, as they finish 7th in the Coastal division.

The B1G (the Big Ten, which of course has 14 teams):
- Ohio State is as good as they say. Undefeated season going into the CFP.
- Michigan State would be champs except for the Buckeyes.
- Penn St gets the Wolverines at home, so they get 3rd and Harbaugh gets 4th.
- The rest of the division is bad. Take Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana in that order.
- Take Minnesota for the West Division! They get BOTH Wisc and Neb at home!
- Wisconsin will be ready to pounce on another division crown if the Gophers fail.
- Nebraska third, and nobody close behind them.
(But plan on Iowa, NW, Illinois, and terrible Purdue if you have to.)

The XII (the Big Twelve, which of course has 10 teams):
- TCU all the way, including a pounding of Baylor in Fort Worth and a trip to the CFP.
- The rest of the real class in the XII is Baylor and OU, who we see 2nd and 3rd.
- There's a logjam for mediocrity, which we're deciphering as Texas, K-St, OSU, and WVU.
- The bottom of the conference is still poor. Tech 8th, ISU 9th, KU 10th.

The Pac-12 Conference:
- Two tight races at the top: we'll flip a coin down south and say UCLA has the slightly easier road.
- Up north, we've a hunch that it's finally Stanford's year to get through OU to the CFP!
- The four other good teams in the conference are Arizona, Utah, Cal, and ASU. In that order.
- UW might join them, but let's see them against Boise St first. If they win there, then yes.
- Wazzu and Oregon St may have some chances to at least go to a bowl.
- Colorado definitely does NOT.

The Southeastern Conference:
- We're staying with 'Bama until they prove us wrong. Division, conference, CFP.
-...but LSU and Auburn are good choices, too, should "In Saban we trust" falter.
- 4th/5th is tight between Ole Miss and Arkansas; their game is in Mississippi, so we take the Rebels.
- 6th/7th would be 1st/2nd in most conferences. Here, it's placing Miss St in the cellar because A&M wins in Texas.
- Georgia's the only team in the Eastern Division that would have a chance in the West.
- The other six will go winless against the West. Book it!
- Vanderbilt will be last. But I'd prefer to school there than any of the other SEC schools.
- Spots 2-6 may be a five way tie at 3-5, but we'll say: UK, Mizzou, USC, FLA, and UT.

So to recap: The College Football Playoff should be TCU, Ohio St, Stanford, and 'Bama.
The Power Five Bottom Five (we're splitting it up this year!) may start with Vandy, Kansas, Colorado, Purdue, and Wake Forest. The Group of Five conferences are next.

Monday, January 26, 2015

How do you maintain rivalries in an era of bloated conferences?

This also comes from Dr. Saturday, and it's a direct result of the ridiculous size of the conferences in college football today. The ACC, for reference, now has fourteen teams in two divisions, which means that teams in the opposite division (even longtime rivals who have been split apart) play each other at most every OTHER year, so they come to your campus every FOUR (or more?) years. Here's a novel solution for that from the state of North Carolina, right on the dividing line of the Atlantic Coast Conference...

North Carolina and Wake Forest, two ACC rivals, took an interesting approach to filling a slot in their non-conference schedules for 2019 and 2021.
Instead of looking outside the ACC, the two programs will square off in non-conference games – one at Wake Forest on September 14, 2019, and one at UNC on September 25, 2021. Because of the ACC’s scheduling arrangements, the two teams were not scheduled to play one another in those seasons. Now they will, but the game “will not factor into the ACC standings.”
“This is a unique opportunity to play a regional rival in years that fall outside the normal conference rotation,” UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham said. “We have a long history with Wake Forest that has historical value and will generate interest within our fans.”
According to a release from UNC, this home-and-home arrangement is “the first time two members of a Power Five conference have agreed to play each other in a football series originally scheduled as non-conference games.”
North Carolina and Wake Forest have a rivalry that spans more than 100 years. In 105 meetings, the Tar Heels lead the series 68-35-2. The two teams played one another every year from 1944-2004 but now play on an infrequent basis due to the rotating schedule (which is set through 2024) stemming from the conference’s expansion to 14 teams (UNC and Wake are in different divisions).
This agreement also satisfies the ACC’s requirement of each program scheduling at least one power five team in its non-conference slate.
The two programs will meet in conference matchups in 2015 and 2022

Sunday, January 18, 2015

The best and worst games of the year in college football

Sports Illustrated does a tremendous job of compiling their list of the 25 best and ten worst games of the FBS season (thereby excluding Savannah State, Davidson, Columbia, and other infamous 1-AA programs from the latter list, mercifully).

In the top 25, the obvious winner is indeed the most pivotal game of the regular season: Baylor 61, TCU 58, although the national championship game and both semifinals made the list as well. Some of my favorite games of the season show up as well, like the East Carolina unrealistically surprising conference championship over UCF, the WILD Western Kentucky/Central Michigan Bahamas Bowl (and WKU's 67-66 upset of Marshall), the Cal/Wazzu statistical menagerie, Arizona's Hail Mary over Cal and Arizona State's over USC, and Michigan State's comeback over Baylor

Meanwhile, there's also no argument with the "winner" of the Bottom Ten, a game I was "blessed" to have seen all five quarters of: Wake Forest 6, Virginia Tech 3. Somehow, the only team that defeated the eventual national champions (IN COLUMBUS, no less) also lost to the worst-ranked Power Five conference team in the country. An impressive double, Hokies! The list also includes both of Florida's most horrific performances, the Arkansas demolition of Texas in the bowl game where only one team showed up; the Georgia Tech rout of Pitt where the Panthers gave up five fumbles in their first thirteen plays; and the ridiculous Michigan/Northwestern game in which the rain added to the pathetic showing.

Thursday, January 15, 2015

Comparing the final rankings...

It's always interesting to compare opinions, especially when the entire point of sports is to enjoy the competition between your guys and their guys and in doing so, comparing the two teams - and in the context of an entire season, comparing your guys to a slough of "their guys" and deciding how far up the ladder your guys are. (Ladies: "guys" is meant as a unisex term here.)

So, with that in mind, here's a list based on the Following Football #1-128 tiered ranking system that includes the final poll from the AP writers, the Sagaring rating system (if you need a primer in the Sagarin system, let me know!), the Massey Index (which compares and compiles 91 different computer and human ranking systems and then provides us with (for lack of a better term) a 'consensus' result), and the Superlist, which combines the six known meta-lists and gives us a different kind of consensus!

(The Sagarin rating and rank are in red simply to make the two connect visually better. The actual Sagarin rankings include the FCS teams: Eastern Michigan is really #208 in the country, out of 252! Also, the letters on the Massey rankings are tiers, just like FF uses: while these come from our hand, they're denoting the natural breaks in the totals - where there's a big gap between schools and where the groupings are.)


Final Final  Final  Final
Final Final Sagarin Massey Superlist AP
Ranking Team Conf Record rating Ranking Ranking rank
A1 Ohio St b10 14-1 100.81 1 A1 1 1
A2 Oregon pac 13-2 95.71 4 A2 2 2
A3 Alabama sec 12-2 96.83 3 A3 3 4
A4 Florida St acc 13-1 84.86 16 B7 6 5T
A5 TCU b12 12-1 99.58 2 A4 4 3
B06 Michigan St b10 11-2 93.36 6 B+5 5 5T
B07 Baylor b12 11-2 90.57 7 B8 8 7
B08 Georgia Tech acc 11-3 87.42 12 C09 11 8
B09 Mississippi St sec 10-3 89.19 9 C12 14 11
B10 Georgia sec 10-3 95.13 5 B6 7 9
B11 UCLA pac 10-3 84.71 17 C11 9 10
C12 Ole Miss sec 9-4 89.82 8 C10 10 17
C13 Missouri sec 11-3 85.06 15 D13 13 14
C14 Kansas St b12 9-4 84.48 19 E20 24 18
C15 Clemson acc 10-3 87.03 13 D15 12 15
C16 Wisconsin b10 11-3 83.48 21 D14 15 13
C17 Auburn sec 8-5 88.40 11 E16 17 22
D18 Boise St mw 12-2 77.43 36 E17 19 16
D19 Arizona St pac 10-3 81.96 25 E19 16 12
D20 USC pac 9-4 84.19 20 E18 18 20
D21 Arizona pac 10-4 77.76 33 E22 20 19
D22 LSU sec 8-5 85.53 14 F25 26
D23 Utah pac 9-4 82.75 23 F26 23 21
E24 Texas A&M sec 8-5 82.82 22 G29 27
E25 Stanford pac 8-5 84.61 18 F24 22
E26 Arkansas sec 7-6 88.48 10 F23 21
E27 Nebraska b10 9-4 81.09 29 G28 30
E28 Oklahoma b12 8-5 81.47 27 G30 31
E29 Louisville acc 9-4 80.60 30 G27 28 24
E30 Marshall cusa 13-1 82.36 24 E21 25 23
E31 Notre Dame ind 8-5 79.83 31 H+32 32
E32 Minnesota b10 8-5 76.17 37 H34 35
E33 Duke acc 9-4 74.99 41 I40 40
F34 Florida sec 7-5 81.48 26 H+31 29
F35 South Carolina sec 7-6 77.56 35 I39 38
F36 Colorado St mw 10-3 69.51 60 I38 37
F37 Memphis aac 10-3 76.11 38 H33 34 25
G38 West Virginia b12 7-6 78.53 32 I+36 36
G39 Washington pac 8-6 74.34 43 J+43 39
G40 Cincinnati aac 8-4 71.48 55 J46 53
G41 Miami-FL acc 6-7 75.08 40 K49 51
G42 Utah St mw 10-4 72.70 49 J+41 45
H43 North Carolina St acc 8-5 73.21 45 J+42 42
H44 Maryland b10 7-6 72.39 52 K54 48
H45 Tennessee sec 7-6 81.39 28 H35 33
H46 Northern Illinois mac 11-3 68.08 65 K53 54
H47 Rutgers b10 8-5 70.53 59 J47 41
H48 Penn St b10 7-6 73.55 44 K55 49
H49 Air Force mw 10-3 67.79 69 J45 47
I50 Texas b12 6-7 72.42 51 K51 52
I51 Oklahoma St b12 7-6 72.46 50 K50 44
I52 Iowa b10 7-6 73.13 46 L+57 56
I53 Boston College acc 7-6 74.36 42 J48 50
I54 Kentucky sec 5-7 73.04 47 M70 64
J55 Central Florida aac 9-4 71.18 56 K56 61
J56 East Carolina aac 8-5 69.44 62 L62 69
J57 BYU ind 8-5 71.61 53 K52 55
J58 Louisiana Tech cusa 9-5 77.57 34 I37 46
J59 Virginia Tech acc 7-6 75.30 39 J44 43
J60 Navy ind 8-5 68.05 66 L+58 57
K61 North Carolina acc 6-7 67.60 70 M69 63
K62 Georgia Southern sun 9-3 69.47 61 L59 62
K63 UL-Lafayette sun 9-4 66.68 71 M66 67
K64 Western Kentucky cusa 8-5 66.24 73 L64 70







Final Final Sagarin Massey Superlist
Ranking Team Conf Record rating Ranking Ranking
K65 California pac 5-7 71.55 54 M65 58
K66 Oregon St pac 5-7 66.05 75 N76 71
K67 Michigan b10 5-7 70.70 58 L63 59
L68 Western Michigan mac 8-5 64.84 80 N75 78
L69 Houston aac 8-5 67.89 68 M-71 75
L70 Pitt acc 6-7 70.86 57 M68 72
L71 Illinois b10 6-7 65.10 77 N+73 73
L72 Nevada mw 7-6 64.28 81 N+74 74
L73 Toledo mac 9-4 68.01 67 L61 65
M74 Texas Tech b12 4-8 66.48 72 O+78 77
M75 Virginia acc 5-7 72.79 48 L60 60
M76 Rice cusa 8-5 68.39 64 M67 66
M77 San Diego St mw 7-6 64.12 82 N-77 79
M78 Northwestern b10 5-7 69.29 63 M-72 68
N79 Temple aac 6-6 65.00 79 O81 83
N80 Bowling Green mac 8-6 57.13 98 P89 90
N81 Arkansas St sun 7-6 65.04 78 P+83 86
N82 Central Michigan mac 7-6 62.07 87 P86 88
O83 Fresno St mw 6-8 59.13 92 P88 85
O84 UTEP cusa 7-6 61.44 89 O82 80
O85 UAB cusa 6-6 65.30 76 O+79 82
O86 Washington St pac 3-9 66.18 74 O80 76
O87 Texas St sun 7-5 58.75 93 P90 92
O88 Appalachian St sun 7-5 61.82 88 P87 95
O89 Kansas b12 3-9 58.31 94 Q95 91
O90 Syracuse acc 3-9 62.97 84 P91 87
O91 South Alabama sun 6-7 55.89 104 Q96 98
P92 Purdue b10 4-8 62.34 86 Q94 94
P93 Ohio mac 6-6 54.80 107 R099 104
P94 Middle Tennessee cusa 6-6 60.79 91 P+84 84
P95 Colorado pac 2-10 62.93 85 Q+93 93
P96 Iowa St b12 2-10 61.38 90 R+97 96
Q097 UL-Monroe sun 4-8 55.96 103 S107 108
Q098 Ball St mac 5-7 57.68 96 R102 105
Q099 Wyoming mw 4-8 56.46 102 R098 97
Q100 Buffalo mac 5-6 53.54 110 S108 114
Q101 Wake Forest acc 3-9 56.50 101 S+103 102
Q102 Indiana b10 3-9 64.04 83 P+85 81
R103 Hawai'i mw 4-9 56.78 100 S106 101
R104 Old Dominion cusa 6-6 58.08 95 Q+92 89
R105 South Florida aac 4-8 52.68 114 S109 110
R106 New Mexico mw 4-8 55.18 105 R101 99
R107 Vanderbilt sec 3-9 57.14 97 R100 100
R108 FIU cusa 4-8 56.99 99 S104 106
S109 Florida Atlantic cusa 3-9 53.75 109 T+112 111
S110 Akron mac 5-7 54.86 106 S110 112
S111 Tulane aac 3-9 53.29 112 T+111 107
S112 Army ind 4-8 51.59 117 T116 116
S113 North Texas cusa 4-8 52.95 113 T115 113
S114 Southern Miss cusa 3-9 53.54 111 T113 115
T115 San Jose St mw 3-9 52.04 115 T114 109
T116 UT-San Antonio sun 4-7 54.31 108 S105 103
T117 Miami-OH mac 2-10 50.26 118 U120 121
T118 Troy sun 3-9 46.10 123 U122 122
T119 Tulsa aac 2-10 48.43 119 U118 118
T120 UNLV mw 2-11 46.94 121 U121 119
U121 Kent St mac 2-9 47.47 120 U119 120
U122 U Massachusetts mac 3-9 51.69 116 U117 117
U123 U Conn aac 2-10 44.70 125 V+123 123
U124 Idaho sun 1-10 46.66 122 V125 127
U125 Eastern Michigan mac 2-10 38.77 128 V126 126
U126 SMU aac 1-11 39.15 127 V124 124
V127 New Mexico St sun 2-10 45.20 124 V127 125
V128 Georgia St sun 1-11 41.00 126 V-128 128

A few interesting things to notice:  Yes, Ohio State gets #1 in all systems, but not really unanimously. TCU actually had the highest Sagarin rating by two full points before the Buckeye beatdown on Oregon's finest...Florida State's position is as uncertain as ever: we still have them fourth, since we had them top four and in the playoff before it started; but some organizations drop them out of the top four, and in fact their rankings range from 4 down to 16!...Michigan State's in the top six in every system. Big month for the B1G!...Lotta love for Marshall in the final analysis - top 25 in all set-ups except ours...Also hard to believe the last place team in a division could be in the top 25, but Arkansas' annihilation of Texas and the last few games of their season is pushing their stock up into the high twenties!...Florida, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, and Louisiana Tech are all getting much higher rankings from all of the other systems than we gave them: I guess we're going to have to take another look, aren't we?...Certain combinations you tend to look for automatically, right? Nebraska finished ahead of Oklahoma across the board; Michigan is generally ahead of their directional schools, especially up-and-coming Western Michigan...Speaking of Broncos, how about Boise State, carrying the banner for the small programs once again - the first non-power conference team to win three BCS/New Year's Six games (only one to PLAY in that many, too!)...If this really was Alabama-Birmingham's last year of football, they fared commendably: 6-6, with every ranking between 76 and 85....The dis-honor of the lowest Power Conference team goes to Wake Forest, although within the FF rankings, Vanderbilt fell below the Demon Deacons....And, as always, the Bottom Twelve or so are set in concrete, with virtually identical membership from all four rating systems (Army gets its nose in twelfth from the bottom on the Sagarin scale) - Miami - OH, Troy, Tulsa, UNLV, Kent St, UMass, UConn, Idaho, Eastern Michigane, SMU, New Mexico St, and last place holder, Georgia St. A lack of sincerity in our congratulations to ALL of you!