While here at Following Football:ACNC we don't rank our teams early so as not to bias ourselves against what we see, there's nothing to stop us from guessing how things are going to turn out! So, holding back the right to adjust these predictions as circumstances warrant until the season actually starts in September, here are some thoughts as they pertain to the actual conference races this fall...
Atlantic Coast Conference:
- The winner of the Florida St @ Clemson game wins the ACC title. (We bet Clemson.)
- Louisville 3rd and NC St 4th in the Atlantic; everyone else is putrid.
- Flip a coin between Miami, Georgia Tech, and Va-Tech for the Coastal crown...
-...we're taking Miami in an upset right now.
- Duke will still be good; just not AS good. 4th place.
- Since UNC goes TO Pitt, we'll take Pitt for 5th and the Tar Heels 6th.
- It'll be Al Golden's last year at Virginia, as they finish 7th in the Coastal division.
The B1G (the Big Ten, which of course has 14 teams):
- Ohio State is as good as they say. Undefeated season going into the CFP.
- Michigan State would be champs except for the Buckeyes.
- Penn St gets the Wolverines at home, so they get 3rd and Harbaugh gets 4th.
- The rest of the division is bad. Take Rutgers, Maryland, and Indiana in that order.
- Take Minnesota for the West Division! They get BOTH Wisc and Neb at home!
- Wisconsin will be ready to pounce on another division crown if the Gophers fail.
- Nebraska third, and nobody close behind them.
(But plan on Iowa, NW, Illinois, and terrible Purdue if you have to.)
The XII (the Big Twelve, which of course has 10 teams):
- TCU all the way, including a pounding of Baylor in Fort Worth and a trip to the CFP.
- The rest of the real class in the XII is Baylor and OU, who we see 2nd and 3rd.
- There's a logjam for mediocrity, which we're deciphering as Texas, K-St, OSU, and WVU.
- The bottom of the conference is still poor. Tech 8th, ISU 9th, KU 10th.
The Pac-12 Conference:
- Two tight races at the top: we'll flip a coin down south and say UCLA has the slightly easier road.
- Up north, we've a hunch that it's finally Stanford's year to get through OU to the CFP!
- The four other good teams in the conference are Arizona, Utah, Cal, and ASU. In that order.
- UW might join them, but let's see them against Boise St first. If they win there, then yes.
- Wazzu and Oregon St may have some chances to at least go to a bowl.
- Colorado definitely does NOT.
The Southeastern Conference:
- We're staying with 'Bama until they prove us wrong. Division, conference, CFP.
-...but LSU and Auburn are good choices, too, should "In Saban we trust" falter.
- 4th/5th is tight between Ole Miss and Arkansas; their game is in Mississippi, so we take the Rebels.
- 6th/7th would be 1st/2nd in most conferences. Here, it's placing Miss St in the cellar because A&M wins in Texas.
- Georgia's the only team in the Eastern Division that would have a chance in the West.
- The other six will go winless against the West. Book it!
- Vanderbilt will be last. But I'd prefer to school there than any of the other SEC schools.
- Spots 2-6 may be a five way tie at 3-5, but we'll say: UK, Mizzou, USC, FLA, and UT.
So to recap: The College Football Playoff should be TCU, Ohio St, Stanford, and 'Bama.
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Thursday, July 2, 2015
Speaking of college football, how about a few early predictions?
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Monday, January 26, 2015
How do you maintain rivalries in an era of bloated conferences?
This also comes from Dr. Saturday, and it's a direct result of the ridiculous size of the conferences in college football today. The ACC, for reference, now has fourteen teams in two divisions, which means that teams in the opposite division (even longtime rivals who have been split apart) play each other at most every OTHER year, so they come to your campus every FOUR (or more?) years. Here's a novel solution for that from the state of North Carolina, right on the dividing line of the Atlantic Coast Conference...
North Carolina and Wake Forest, two ACC rivals, took an interesting approach to filling a slot in their non-conference schedules for 2019 and 2021.
North Carolina and Wake Forest, two ACC rivals, took an interesting approach to filling a slot in their non-conference schedules for 2019 and 2021.
Instead of looking outside the ACC, the two programs will square off in non-conference games – one at Wake Forest on September 14, 2019, and one at UNC on September 25, 2021. Because of the ACC’s scheduling arrangements, the two teams were not scheduled to play one another in those seasons. Now they will, but the game “will not factor into the ACC standings.”
“This is a unique opportunity to play a regional rival in years that fall outside the normal conference rotation,” UNC athletic director Bubba Cunningham said. “We have a long history with Wake Forest that has historical value and will generate interest within our fans.”
According to a release from UNC, this home-and-home arrangement is “the first time two members of a Power Five conference have agreed to play each other in a football series originally scheduled as non-conference games.”
North Carolina and Wake Forest have a rivalry that spans more than 100 years. In 105 meetings, the Tar Heels lead the series 68-35-2. The two teams played one another every year from 1944-2004 but now play on an infrequent basis due to the rotating schedule (which is set through 2024) stemming from the conference’s expansion to 14 teams (UNC and Wake are in different divisions).
This agreement also satisfies the ACC’s requirement of each program scheduling at least one power five team in its non-conference slate.
The two programs will meet in conference matchups in 2015 and 2022
Sunday, January 18, 2015
The best and worst games of the year in college football
Sports Illustrated does a tremendous job of compiling their list of the 25 best and ten worst games of the FBS season (thereby excluding Savannah State, Davidson, Columbia, and other infamous 1-AA programs from the latter list, mercifully).
In the top 25, the obvious winner is indeed the most pivotal game of the regular season: Baylor 61, TCU 58, although the national championship game and both semifinals made the list as well. Some of my favorite games of the season show up as well, like the East Carolina unrealistically surprising conference championship over UCF, the WILD Western Kentucky/Central Michigan Bahamas Bowl (and WKU's 67-66 upset of Marshall), the Cal/Wazzu statistical menagerie, Arizona's Hail Mary over Cal and Arizona State's over USC, and Michigan State's comeback over Baylor
Meanwhile, there's also no argument with the "winner" of the Bottom Ten, a game I was "blessed" to have seen all five quarters of: Wake Forest 6, Virginia Tech 3. Somehow, the only team that defeated the eventual national champions (IN COLUMBUS, no less) also lost to the worst-ranked Power Five conference team in the country. An impressive double, Hokies! The list also includes both of Florida's most horrific performances, the Arkansas demolition of Texas in the bowl game where only one team showed up; the Georgia Tech rout of Pitt where the Panthers gave up five fumbles in their first thirteen plays; and the ridiculous Michigan/Northwestern game in which the rain added to the pathetic showing.
In the top 25, the obvious winner is indeed the most pivotal game of the regular season: Baylor 61, TCU 58, although the national championship game and both semifinals made the list as well. Some of my favorite games of the season show up as well, like the East Carolina unrealistically surprising conference championship over UCF, the WILD Western Kentucky/Central Michigan Bahamas Bowl (and WKU's 67-66 upset of Marshall), the Cal/Wazzu statistical menagerie, Arizona's Hail Mary over Cal and Arizona State's over USC, and Michigan State's comeback over Baylor
Meanwhile, there's also no argument with the "winner" of the Bottom Ten, a game I was "blessed" to have seen all five quarters of: Wake Forest 6, Virginia Tech 3. Somehow, the only team that defeated the eventual national champions (IN COLUMBUS, no less) also lost to the worst-ranked Power Five conference team in the country. An impressive double, Hokies! The list also includes both of Florida's most horrific performances, the Arkansas demolition of Texas in the bowl game where only one team showed up; the Georgia Tech rout of Pitt where the Panthers gave up five fumbles in their first thirteen plays; and the ridiculous Michigan/Northwestern game in which the rain added to the pathetic showing.
Thursday, January 15, 2015
Comparing the final rankings...
It's always interesting to compare opinions, especially when the entire point of sports is to enjoy the competition between your guys and their guys and in doing so, comparing the two teams - and in the context of an entire season, comparing your guys to a slough of "their guys" and deciding how far up the ladder your guys are. (Ladies: "guys" is meant as a unisex term here.)
So, with that in mind, here's a list based on the Following Football #1-128 tiered ranking system that includes the final poll from the AP writers, the Sagaring rating system (if you need a primer in the Sagarin system, let me know!), the Massey Index (which compares and compiles 91 different computer and human ranking systems and then provides us with (for lack of a better term) a 'consensus' result), and the Superlist, which combines the six known meta-lists and gives us a different kind of consensus!
(The Sagarin rating and rank are in red simply to make the two connect visually better. The actual Sagarin rankings include the FCS teams: Eastern Michigan is really #208 in the country, out of 252! Also, the letters on the Massey rankings are tiers, just like FF uses: while these come from our hand, they're denoting the natural breaks in the totals - where there's a big gap between schools and where the groupings are.)
So, with that in mind, here's a list based on the Following Football #1-128 tiered ranking system that includes the final poll from the AP writers, the Sagaring rating system (if you need a primer in the Sagarin system, let me know!), the Massey Index (which compares and compiles 91 different computer and human ranking systems and then provides us with (for lack of a better term) a 'consensus' result), and the Superlist, which combines the six known meta-lists and gives us a different kind of consensus!
(The Sagarin rating and rank are in red simply to make the two connect visually better. The actual Sagarin rankings include the FCS teams: Eastern Michigan is really #208 in the country, out of 252! Also, the letters on the Massey rankings are tiers, just like FF uses: while these come from our hand, they're denoting the natural breaks in the totals - where there's a big gap between schools and where the groupings are.)
Final | Final | Final | Final | |||||
Final | Final | Sagarin | Massey | Superlist | AP | |||
Ranking | Team | Conf | Record | rating | Ranking | Ranking | rank | |
A1 | Ohio St | b10 | 14-1 | 100.81 | 1 | A1 | 1 | 1 |
A2 | Oregon | pac | 13-2 | 95.71 | 4 | A2 | 2 | 2 |
A3 | Alabama | sec | 12-2 | 96.83 | 3 | A3 | 3 | 4 |
A4 | Florida St | acc | 13-1 | 84.86 | 16 | B7 | 6 | 5T |
A5 | TCU | b12 | 12-1 | 99.58 | 2 | A4 | 4 | 3 |
B06 | Michigan St | b10 | 11-2 | 93.36 | 6 | B+5 | 5 | 5T |
B07 | Baylor | b12 | 11-2 | 90.57 | 7 | B8 | 8 | 7 |
B08 | Georgia Tech | acc | 11-3 | 87.42 | 12 | C09 | 11 | 8 |
B09 | Mississippi St | sec | 10-3 | 89.19 | 9 | C12 | 14 | 11 |
B10 | Georgia | sec | 10-3 | 95.13 | 5 | B6 | 7 | 9 |
B11 | UCLA | pac | 10-3 | 84.71 | 17 | C11 | 9 | 10 |
C12 | Ole Miss | sec | 9-4 | 89.82 | 8 | C10 | 10 | 17 |
C13 | Missouri | sec | 11-3 | 85.06 | 15 | D13 | 13 | 14 |
C14 | Kansas St | b12 | 9-4 | 84.48 | 19 | E20 | 24 | 18 |
C15 | Clemson | acc | 10-3 | 87.03 | 13 | D15 | 12 | 15 |
C16 | Wisconsin | b10 | 11-3 | 83.48 | 21 | D14 | 15 | 13 |
C17 | Auburn | sec | 8-5 | 88.40 | 11 | E16 | 17 | 22 |
D18 | Boise St | mw | 12-2 | 77.43 | 36 | E17 | 19 | 16 |
D19 | Arizona St | pac | 10-3 | 81.96 | 25 | E19 | 16 | 12 |
D20 | USC | pac | 9-4 | 84.19 | 20 | E18 | 18 | 20 |
D21 | Arizona | pac | 10-4 | 77.76 | 33 | E22 | 20 | 19 |
D22 | LSU | sec | 8-5 | 85.53 | 14 | F25 | 26 | |
D23 | Utah | pac | 9-4 | 82.75 | 23 | F26 | 23 | 21 |
E24 | Texas A&M | sec | 8-5 | 82.82 | 22 | G29 | 27 | |
E25 | Stanford | pac | 8-5 | 84.61 | 18 | F24 | 22 | |
E26 | Arkansas | sec | 7-6 | 88.48 | 10 | F23 | 21 | |
E27 | Nebraska | b10 | 9-4 | 81.09 | 29 | G28 | 30 | |
E28 | Oklahoma | b12 | 8-5 | 81.47 | 27 | G30 | 31 | |
E29 | Louisville | acc | 9-4 | 80.60 | 30 | G27 | 28 | 24 |
E30 | Marshall | cusa | 13-1 | 82.36 | 24 | E21 | 25 | 23 |
E31 | Notre Dame | ind | 8-5 | 79.83 | 31 | H+32 | 32 | |
E32 | Minnesota | b10 | 8-5 | 76.17 | 37 | H34 | 35 | |
E33 | Duke | acc | 9-4 | 74.99 | 41 | I40 | 40 | |
F34 | Florida | sec | 7-5 | 81.48 | 26 | H+31 | 29 | |
F35 | South Carolina | sec | 7-6 | 77.56 | 35 | I39 | 38 | |
F36 | Colorado St | mw | 10-3 | 69.51 | 60 | I38 | 37 | |
F37 | Memphis | aac | 10-3 | 76.11 | 38 | H33 | 34 | 25 |
G38 | West Virginia | b12 | 7-6 | 78.53 | 32 | I+36 | 36 | |
G39 | Washington | pac | 8-6 | 74.34 | 43 | J+43 | 39 | |
G40 | Cincinnati | aac | 8-4 | 71.48 | 55 | J46 | 53 | |
G41 | Miami-FL | acc | 6-7 | 75.08 | 40 | K49 | 51 | |
G42 | Utah St | mw | 10-4 | 72.70 | 49 | J+41 | 45 | |
H43 | North Carolina St | acc | 8-5 | 73.21 | 45 | J+42 | 42 | |
H44 | Maryland | b10 | 7-6 | 72.39 | 52 | K54 | 48 | |
H45 | Tennessee | sec | 7-6 | 81.39 | 28 | H35 | 33 | |
H46 | Northern Illinois | mac | 11-3 | 68.08 | 65 | K53 | 54 | |
H47 | Rutgers | b10 | 8-5 | 70.53 | 59 | J47 | 41 | |
H48 | Penn St | b10 | 7-6 | 73.55 | 44 | K55 | 49 | |
H49 | Air Force | mw | 10-3 | 67.79 | 69 | J45 | 47 | |
I50 | Texas | b12 | 6-7 | 72.42 | 51 | K51 | 52 | |
I51 | Oklahoma St | b12 | 7-6 | 72.46 | 50 | K50 | 44 | |
I52 | Iowa | b10 | 7-6 | 73.13 | 46 | L+57 | 56 | |
I53 | Boston College | acc | 7-6 | 74.36 | 42 | J48 | 50 | |
I54 | Kentucky | sec | 5-7 | 73.04 | 47 | M70 | 64 | |
J55 | Central Florida | aac | 9-4 | 71.18 | 56 | K56 | 61 | |
J56 | East Carolina | aac | 8-5 | 69.44 | 62 | L62 | 69 | |
J57 | BYU | ind | 8-5 | 71.61 | 53 | K52 | 55 | |
J58 | Louisiana Tech | cusa | 9-5 | 77.57 | 34 | I37 | 46 | |
J59 | Virginia Tech | acc | 7-6 | 75.30 | 39 | J44 | 43 | |
J60 | Navy | ind | 8-5 | 68.05 | 66 | L+58 | 57 | |
K61 | North Carolina | acc | 6-7 | 67.60 | 70 | M69 | 63 | |
K62 | Georgia Southern | sun | 9-3 | 69.47 | 61 | L59 | 62 | |
K63 | UL-Lafayette | sun | 9-4 | 66.68 | 71 | M66 | 67 | |
K64 | Western Kentucky | cusa | 8-5 | 66.24 | 73 | L64 | 70 | |
Final | Final | Sagarin | Massey | Superlist | ||||
Ranking | Team | Conf | Record | rating | Ranking | Ranking | ||
K65 | California | pac | 5-7 | 71.55 | 54 | M65 | 58 | |
K66 | Oregon St | pac | 5-7 | 66.05 | 75 | N76 | 71 | |
K67 | Michigan | b10 | 5-7 | 70.70 | 58 | L63 | 59 | |
L68 | Western Michigan | mac | 8-5 | 64.84 | 80 | N75 | 78 | |
L69 | Houston | aac | 8-5 | 67.89 | 68 | M-71 | 75 | |
L70 | Pitt | acc | 6-7 | 70.86 | 57 | M68 | 72 | |
L71 | Illinois | b10 | 6-7 | 65.10 | 77 | N+73 | 73 | |
L72 | Nevada | mw | 7-6 | 64.28 | 81 | N+74 | 74 | |
L73 | Toledo | mac | 9-4 | 68.01 | 67 | L61 | 65 | |
M74 | Texas Tech | b12 | 4-8 | 66.48 | 72 | O+78 | 77 | |
M75 | Virginia | acc | 5-7 | 72.79 | 48 | L60 | 60 | |
M76 | Rice | cusa | 8-5 | 68.39 | 64 | M67 | 66 | |
M77 | San Diego St | mw | 7-6 | 64.12 | 82 | N-77 | 79 | |
M78 | Northwestern | b10 | 5-7 | 69.29 | 63 | M-72 | 68 | |
N79 | Temple | aac | 6-6 | 65.00 | 79 | O81 | 83 | |
N80 | Bowling Green | mac | 8-6 | 57.13 | 98 | P89 | 90 | |
N81 | Arkansas St | sun | 7-6 | 65.04 | 78 | P+83 | 86 | |
N82 | Central Michigan | mac | 7-6 | 62.07 | 87 | P86 | 88 | |
O83 | Fresno St | mw | 6-8 | 59.13 | 92 | P88 | 85 | |
O84 | UTEP | cusa | 7-6 | 61.44 | 89 | O82 | 80 | |
O85 | UAB | cusa | 6-6 | 65.30 | 76 | O+79 | 82 | |
O86 | Washington St | pac | 3-9 | 66.18 | 74 | O80 | 76 | |
O87 | Texas St | sun | 7-5 | 58.75 | 93 | P90 | 92 | |
O88 | Appalachian St | sun | 7-5 | 61.82 | 88 | P87 | 95 | |
O89 | Kansas | b12 | 3-9 | 58.31 | 94 | Q95 | 91 | |
O90 | Syracuse | acc | 3-9 | 62.97 | 84 | P91 | 87 | |
O91 | South Alabama | sun | 6-7 | 55.89 | 104 | Q96 | 98 | |
P92 | Purdue | b10 | 4-8 | 62.34 | 86 | Q94 | 94 | |
P93 | Ohio | mac | 6-6 | 54.80 | 107 | R099 | 104 | |
P94 | Middle Tennessee | cusa | 6-6 | 60.79 | 91 | P+84 | 84 | |
P95 | Colorado | pac | 2-10 | 62.93 | 85 | Q+93 | 93 | |
P96 | Iowa St | b12 | 2-10 | 61.38 | 90 | R+97 | 96 | |
Q097 | UL-Monroe | sun | 4-8 | 55.96 | 103 | S107 | 108 | |
Q098 | Ball St | mac | 5-7 | 57.68 | 96 | R102 | 105 | |
Q099 | Wyoming | mw | 4-8 | 56.46 | 102 | R098 | 97 | |
Q100 | Buffalo | mac | 5-6 | 53.54 | 110 | S108 | 114 | |
Q101 | Wake Forest | acc | 3-9 | 56.50 | 101 | S+103 | 102 | |
Q102 | Indiana | b10 | 3-9 | 64.04 | 83 | P+85 | 81 | |
R103 | Hawai'i | mw | 4-9 | 56.78 | 100 | S106 | 101 | |
R104 | Old Dominion | cusa | 6-6 | 58.08 | 95 | Q+92 | 89 | |
R105 | South Florida | aac | 4-8 | 52.68 | 114 | S109 | 110 | |
R106 | New Mexico | mw | 4-8 | 55.18 | 105 | R101 | 99 | |
R107 | Vanderbilt | sec | 3-9 | 57.14 | 97 | R100 | 100 | |
R108 | FIU | cusa | 4-8 | 56.99 | 99 | S104 | 106 | |
S109 | Florida Atlantic | cusa | 3-9 | 53.75 | 109 | T+112 | 111 | |
S110 | Akron | mac | 5-7 | 54.86 | 106 | S110 | 112 | |
S111 | Tulane | aac | 3-9 | 53.29 | 112 | T+111 | 107 | |
S112 | Army | ind | 4-8 | 51.59 | 117 | T116 | 116 | |
S113 | North Texas | cusa | 4-8 | 52.95 | 113 | T115 | 113 | |
S114 | Southern Miss | cusa | 3-9 | 53.54 | 111 | T113 | 115 | |
T115 | San Jose St | mw | 3-9 | 52.04 | 115 | T114 | 109 | |
T116 | UT-San Antonio | sun | 4-7 | 54.31 | 108 | S105 | 103 | |
T117 | Miami-OH | mac | 2-10 | 50.26 | 118 | U120 | 121 | |
T118 | Troy | sun | 3-9 | 46.10 | 123 | U122 | 122 | |
T119 | Tulsa | aac | 2-10 | 48.43 | 119 | U118 | 118 | |
T120 | UNLV | mw | 2-11 | 46.94 | 121 | U121 | 119 | |
U121 | Kent St | mac | 2-9 | 47.47 | 120 | U119 | 120 | |
U122 | U Massachusetts | mac | 3-9 | 51.69 | 116 | U117 | 117 | |
U123 | U Conn | aac | 2-10 | 44.70 | 125 | V+123 | 123 | |
U124 | Idaho | sun | 1-10 | 46.66 | 122 | V125 | 127 | |
U125 | Eastern Michigan | mac | 2-10 | 38.77 | 128 | V126 | 126 | |
U126 | SMU | aac | 1-11 | 39.15 | 127 | V124 | 124 | |
V127 | New Mexico St | sun | 2-10 | 45.20 | 124 | V127 | 125 | |
V128 | Georgia St | sun | 1-11 | 41.00 | 126 | V-128 | 128 |
A few interesting things to notice: Yes, Ohio State gets #1 in all systems, but not really unanimously. TCU actually had the highest Sagarin rating by two full points before the Buckeye beatdown on Oregon's finest...Florida State's position is as uncertain as ever: we still have them fourth, since we had them top four and in the playoff before it started; but some organizations drop them out of the top four, and in fact their rankings range from 4 down to 16!...Michigan State's in the top six in every system. Big month for the B1G!...Lotta love for Marshall in the final analysis - top 25 in all set-ups except ours...Also hard to believe the last place team in a division could be in the top 25, but Arkansas' annihilation of Texas and the last few games of their season is pushing their stock up into the high twenties!...Florida, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, and Louisiana Tech are all getting much higher rankings from all of the other systems than we gave them: I guess we're going to have to take another look, aren't we?...Certain combinations you tend to look for automatically, right? Nebraska finished ahead of Oklahoma across the board; Michigan is generally ahead of their directional schools, especially up-and-coming Western Michigan...Speaking of Broncos, how about Boise State, carrying the banner for the small programs once again - the first non-power conference team to win three BCS/New Year's Six games (only one to PLAY in that many, too!)...If this really was Alabama-Birmingham's last year of football, they fared commendably: 6-6, with every ranking between 76 and 85....The dis-honor of the lowest Power Conference team goes to Wake Forest, although within the FF rankings, Vanderbilt fell below the Demon Deacons....And, as always, the Bottom Twelve or so are set in concrete, with virtually identical membership from all four rating systems (Army gets its nose in twelfth from the bottom on the Sagarin scale) - Miami - OH, Troy, Tulsa, UNLV, Kent St, UMass, UConn, Idaho, Eastern Michigane, SMU, New Mexico St, and last place holder, Georgia St. A lack of sincerity in our congratulations to ALL of you!
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